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Hiphop - Your Daily Stop - By Trina

 
Your daily stop for all things Hip hop... rants, raves, funny and useless stuff.

Hip Hop is NOT dead. Bitch.

January 4th 2007 11:05
Ooo first post for the year! (For this blog anyway...)

A good way to start this year off is positive thinking. And that includes believing that HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD. F*ckers. For real - you just blind and deaf.

I been getting a lot of comments from people in NY who say that Hip Hop is long gone, something to be ashamed of and poked fun at like nerds in internet cafés playing WOW and DOTA. How I even know those abbreviations well... I'll admit I'm a small time gamer. Real small, like your balls.

Then there's local peeps (mainly in Sydney I've discovered) who reject these statements and claim they love Hip Hop and all their friends do too. Facking teenyboppers.

I was at an R&B club a few weeks ago. I've grown to dislike them, for many reasons I won't list here (well, maybe another time when I'm close to the edge, trying not to lose my head. Uh huh. Uh huh.)

Anyways, the music was wack for most of the night. I'm talking about "DJs" dropping Fatman Scoop's overplayed and overpaid tracks that were hits back when I started sneaking into clubs with a fake i.d. Those were the days. There was also all this hybrid reggae-crunk-hop played one after the other after the other. All sounding the same with similar tempos and mostly by the same artists. Prolly cuz it's easy for the DJs to "mix".

Don't get me wrong, I love Pitbull once in a while, and had a dream once that he tried to seduce me and kidnapped me, driving off with me half-knocked out in the backseat from where I caught a glimpse of my boyfriend's confused face. I opened the backdoor and threw myself out of the car running at 90km/hr. What a f*cked up dream. I met Rihanna too who was going up and down escalators for about 20 minutes because she'd never seen them before.

You don't know Hip Hop. Hip Hop is NOT dead
Where was I? Oh yeah, the shit club. Funny thing is, I and about 5 other people out of a few hundred were bored out of our minds with the crap being played, while most people just went off everytime a crappier new track was played.

It was then that I felt old.

What happened to all the good R&B, the gangsta beats and old skool flava?

Well... it's there but ain't none of these kids touch it. Then I saw one of my friends tryna enjoy themselves like "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Screw that. You can beat 'em. With a stick. A long one with lots of nails on the end.

I decided the only thing I can do, besides venting on how much of a sh*t night it was, is just to stop going to these punk ass joints, open up my own club, and make the minimum age 21 y/o...

Except for Pauler, Jed and Chux cuz you guys are like my lil brothers... oh and my lil brother too cuz you drive me places. And my boyfriend (boy toy) so I'm guaranteed to get lucky that night. But that's all.

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Comment by krayziwun

January 4th 2007 13:07
agree'd on the whole post my sister!... admittedly nas dropped a nasty theory to keep ppl heads ringin n keep them in check in regards to the state of hiphop....i for one... disregard nas' theory, as much as i do love the dude (no homo)... 2006 was a great year for hiphop... mosdef/xzibit/jdillarip/jayz/nas/thegame/snoopdogg/ littlebrother/kidsinthehall all came thru..whether mainstream or underground....not to mention the SOUTH!!..(yes that crunk shit).... fuk that teenybopper shit.... hiphopheads for life...

Comment by Trina

January 4th 2007 21:44
Thanks Krayzi Nice to see ya.

I'll write a proper article on how Hip Hop is NOT dead lol. This was just my rant of frustration.

Pz.

Comment by Cibbuano

January 4th 2007 23:49
Nas went a little too far by saying hip hop is dead, but I think he's echoing the frustration of the older hip hop community...

Comment by Jeremy Ozbboy

January 4th 2007 23:56
Hip Hop died the day I left sydney..

But don't sweat it..

I'll be back soon..

bwhahahahahahaahh ^^

Comment by Trina

January 5th 2007 00:05
I haven't heard Nas' track yet or read the lyrics but I read somewhere that it was more tongue-in-cheek.

Hahaha Jeremy, just the bboy scene. I'll hold it down till you get back. And hurry! Btw I'm coming up there end of this year or maybe earlier like August.

Comment by Tammy

January 5th 2007 00:55
Right now i am at yosuke's after saying goodbye to ske at the airport (oh my god not the airportt!!!!! ) and we are discussing what present to buy tony for his bday -- suggestions inlude all things including a woman heehee (hi tony!!)

Anyway.

Yeahhhhhhhhh ANTI teeny bopper ANTI fatman scoop etc.... more like..... dj's stop playing 'party starters' and try enhance the clubbing experience for once...

heyyy i was planning to open a club too! along with many other things hehehe....

Comment by Trina

January 5th 2007 01:19
Hahaha random but not really random. How was last night? Meh. He'll be back. Ahhh airport memories...

When's Tony's bday? I think it would be real expensive to buy a woman for him. Maybe just a pet.

Totally open up a club and for free entry we'll make the password DOINK.

I'm about to have laksa

Comment by Optomistic Opportunism

January 5th 2007 06:55
Umm..are we talking underground hiphop? Non? Fuck it I will then...

Here's to Dilated Peoples, Diverse, rjd2, Def Wish Cast, Hyjak n Torcha, Binge Thinkerz, Duck Down Records, Krs-1, Showbiz & AG, and Foreign Heights for good measure...

DIG DEEP PEOPLES!

Does anyone remember the o-ii-shi nights here?

Comment by JC

January 5th 2007 09:46
I feel what your saying Trin...

talk about feelin' old...man I'm 2 years into the thirties..try that on...hehe. Man I was there at Silk's "freak me" release party... now, the songs been remade 3 times....3 TIMES!!!! hehe, i gotta lie down...

The thing is I've been involved in one way or another with hiphop since 1989... dancin, supportin, mc'in, even started my own dj business for a good while... and to tell you the truth, hip hop never died. Yes, it changed, even changed face for a bit, but bottom line is - even through the hybernation, hiphop remained alive. I started out a b-boy, then became a Nu-Jacker, and now I get my reggaeton on... but through the journey hiphop was still alive....sometimes not well, but alive. So, keep dooin wot yah dooin, coz when these fake-ass paris hilton muthaF@#kers start ramblin their oooh hiphop is dead shit, then just re-assure them that if that's what they think then they should just stepp off!.. or just punch 'em...either way, iz cool wif me..

..and oh yeah, bring back the ol'skool gansat beats and flavas... b, i, g, PO, PPA!!! or From the depths of the sea...[feel me]

Comment by chux

January 5th 2007 09:49
whats funny to me is how will.i.am is on the hip hop is dead track. if that doesnt make it tongue in cheek i don't know what does.

on a related note, i got a belt buckle that says "hip hop" today. ahahah you might see it on tuesday. maybe.

oh and
"Well... it's there but ain't none of these kids touch it. Then I saw one of my friends tryna enjoy themselves like "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Screw that. You can beat 'em. With a stick. A long one with lots of nails on the end."

Thats so violent and neurotic it reminds me of my comedy blogs. ahahaha. and i always remind people of racism whenever they say "if you can't beat em, join em".
...
...
"i can't convince racists, so i'll just be racist myself!"

Case closed.

I heard Jurassic 5 while in sony central.... not bad.

Comment by Trina

January 5th 2007 13:25
Hey Optom Opp,

It'll take a really elaborate and well-researched article with quotes and all that just to answer your question. Which is what I intended to do before I started going off in random tangents on this post.

But we have the same ideas.

I think I've been to one o-i-shii night, if it was the one with Dancekool, with Nacho Pop and DJ Naiki playing...?

Comment by Anonymous

January 5th 2007 14:29
i think when Nas said Hip Hop Is Dead he meant that the art of the emcee has died...everybody and their babys daddy is a rapper now, but there are very few emcee's around that get little to no recognition in this corporate world.
Trina u said it while complaining about the music they were playin in the club... "All sounding the same with similar tempos and mostly by the same artists" except it affects all forms of 'successful' hiphop which u have to admit is more likely heard by the public then anything 'underground'.
All of the Australian HipHop magazines have Overseas artists on the cover...how do u develop a local scene like that? We have so many talented unsigned artists here who remain unsigned because they wont conform to the record labels demands, but we cant blame the industry for this...it is business and they are just trying to provide what they think the people want so they can make maximum profit.
The problem lies in people, societies so caught up in following the leader and 'fashion' that we've forgotten how to think for ourselves...so when i said before that Hip Hop has lost its balls...i see my communities as HipHop. From the clubs, radio, media to concerts, festivals and especially the internet, we have used and abused HipHop so much that now its like a production line spitting out different variations of the same product, sweatshop styles...

...something to think about...

Comment by Alvz

January 5th 2007 15:10
LOL...one thing im sure of is ELVIS is DEFINITELY dead.

Usually I appreciate even the crap. It's a Friday night and I'm at home surfing the net...I used to go out on a friday night more often than now. The older I get, the more difficult it is for me to find a place that does not play 50 cent or 20, 50 or 100 dollar bills so I can put my hands up..Y'ALL.

Comment by Optomistic Opportunism

January 6th 2007 02:51
AH yes, the good ol' days... good to see Nacho still at it (remember Destructacons?). It was the first time I'd been to a club, when it was held at the Dendy Martin Place.

Goodbar on thursdays (Step Forward) was successful for a long time, I don't really understand the managements decision to dump it. Such an important institution...

But, its like KRS said: "U r not doing hiphop/U R hiphop"
Now there's a quote

Comment by yowiela

January 6th 2007 06:24
That's bossy!

Comment by yowiela

January 6th 2007 06:27
That's bossy!

Comment by Trina

January 6th 2007 11:22
Hey JC you need to come to Sydney so we can vibe!
It's true Hip Hop never died. It won't as long as real recognises real.


Chux, I can't wait to see that buckle. I wanna get one and be blinged out like you. Dropped into your work today to see if you were there. But no
Racist? Hahaha.

Comment by Trina

January 6th 2007 11:25
Hey Anonymous, glad you feel me. Who are you and why haven't we met in person? Or have we? Holla at a girl and see how we can give Hip Hop its balls back.

Comment by Trina

January 6th 2007 11:29
Alvz: Did you know that Elvis' natural hair colour is blonde?

It must be a dancer thing, appreciating the 'crap' with the dope beats and melodies. We can't help it and I won't defend it hahaha. Sean-a Paul!

Comment by Trina

January 6th 2007 11:33
Opt Opp. I don't know what Destructacons is. Ummm nor have i heard of Step Forward...


“Rap is something you do, Hiphop is something you live…” – KRS-ONE


Yes the Hip Hop prophet himself. I dedicated my first post to him.

Comment by Alvz

January 6th 2007 16:13
It must be a dancer thing, appreciating the 'crap' with the dope beats and melodies.

LOL how many times have u heard a good beat only to be ruined by vocals. Like ur feeling it...then u get shattered?

Comment by Optomistic Opportunism

January 7th 2007 03:16
Destructakons was Nacho's bboy team - along with bboy Sushi - back in 2002. Step Forward was what put Maya Jupiter on the map, and had many a celebrity (De La Soul, BEP before they were big, Guru), visit the joint.

It was the backbone of the Sydney underground, to my knowledge at the time. Back to Basics, hosted by Sereck (Def Wish Cast), held at the Lansdowne on Thursdays, soon replaced it.

They probably died out the same way - kids from out west believing its not a night out without the violence.

No, the general hiphopulace does not like these people, let alone agree with them. No matter where they're from.

Comment by Anonymous

January 8th 2007 00:19
Yo Trina you should read the KRS1 article on ozbboy, he gets asked if hip hop is dead

Comment by Trina

January 8th 2007 10:34
Alvz: I feel ya. Especially when it's a remake of a mad old school song with some wack shit on top of it *ahem*Kanye*ahem*

Opt Opp: Wow. I wish I was around and of legal age around those times... Props to them for sticking to what they love and tryna grow (resurrect) the local scene...

Thanks Anon, I'll check it out. Are you Jeremy? Hahaha.

Comment by Optomistic Opportunism

January 9th 2007 01:19
btw,

the current night is @ Club77 in Kings X, every Friday. I haven't been there yet... could you review it for us?

Comment by Trina

January 9th 2007 03:56
Club77... haven't heard of it - not much into the clubbing scene these days.

Comment by JC

January 15th 2007 23:50
Yo Trin..juz got bak from the brix, [B-Vegas hehe]

and I tell yah - HipHop is still kickin up there; good tunes. They have places where Paris Hiltons go upstairs, and Mos Defs go down sturrrz.... nice set up.

pity it's a dead man's land, but their hiphop remains somewhat underground, so it was kinda good vibin up there. Matty B showed me a really cool time; we danced like ALL night and for an ol'codge like moi, that's a real surprise..hehe. You do get a few of those girlies wearing nothing but a band-aid and a handbag, swirlin around like poo in a bowl.... and if I ever here "Oh mah gawd, like, that's so gay like..." I'm gonna shove my hand in their mouths, grab a $100 in the other, and put both my hands up!!! [umm...a bit much, NAH!] yeah but there were some real people there so I ignored it easily...

ok..seriously...I've been listening to some Cuban hiphop and dude it's tight...ol'skool lines, raw as, latin rhythm, cool tracks....you should check it out!

luv ur work Miss T! I hope you and yours are well...JC

BTW would love to vibe with you baba!

Comment by Anonymous

February 3rd 2007 02:15
yo man nas is right hip hop is dead man rap is not to far from it

Comment by Anonymous

February 3rd 2007 02:17
songs like walk it out make hip hop dead

Comment by M_T_Bottle

February 15th 2007 10:30
hip hop is not dead there is just too many people using it as a money making tool instaed of a way of expression and that is killing it

Comment by Trina

February 15th 2007 17:23

Comment by Taesu

February 25th 2007 06:29
if hip hop wuz dead i would be dead.. or on crack

Comment by Trina

February 25th 2007 12:15
Interesting way to put it. I think a lotta peeps would be like that too.

Comment by Anonymous

April 23rd 2007 01:33
Ima big Nas fan... I feel where he's cummin from with that statment... As nas bein a poet he is using exageration as a way to dramatise consiquenses... like when u throw threats u know..... "ur dead u fuck!" cause they looked at u funny... It's like a reminder u know, It gets a reaction like "It ain't dead!!!".... but thats the intention... the more people u get remindin it's dyin, the more people u got tryin to resusitate it. =) Kinda brings every1 down bak to earth & influences them to appreciate real Hip Hop..... Before major record label kill it completley... Like M T Bottle was sayin it is dyin cause it's now bein treated like a prostitute.... It's being fucked for money..... lol

PS...& i'm not biast, i jus like poetry

Comment by selling your car online

December 18th 2007 22:08
HIP HOP IS DEAD!!! You can thank JAy-Z and Bad Boy for killing the shit out of it. Real Hip hop Gang Starr Guru Jeru KRS ONE Jungle brothers etc....

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