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Why I don't go clubbing: Part II
July 25th 2006 01:44
The problem - a sleazy atmosphere:
I used to complain about how the club scene is an excuse for people to get trashed late at night, as a place for people to perve, hit on, pick up and get with randoms for the night or for a little while longer after that.
The horror story - stalking:
Nowadays I don't have as many problems with guys trying to grope me or stalk my friends and I wherever we go (in and out of the club) - my bestfriend once got followed home by a guy who saw her at the club. I'm talking about leaving the club at 4am, sitting and eating in McDonald's on George St for 2 hours, catching the train home then taking a cab. All the while he was following her and luckily she noticed halfway in the cab home. She told the cab driver to stop at the petrol station where the guy following her went up to her and told her he was in love with her and asked her to marry him. No he wasn't on drugs or anything, he was completely sober. And she had absolutely no conversation with him the entire night. Freak!
The defense - saying "no" (or more bluntly, "f*ck off"):
Then there's all the date rape drug incidents. Well I'm fine because I don't drink, except for water or Red Bull if I'm really f*cked. I know people used to think "loser" when I refused any alcohol especially if someone else was buying, "come on, it's free!" Yeah shut the f*ck up I'm not a tight arse who'll take anything because it's free, and I don't need to get trashed to have a good time.
But that's just me.
I guess complaining about the music is better than complaining about the sleazy guys, the trashy girls and dirty feeling after a night of clubbing. Some people still experience that, but avoiding it is a lot simpler than they think.
Then I get people who tell me I'm too preachy: "go join a convent or something and let me get smashed if I want to. By the way, you're so not cool and how are you supposed to get a guy if you don't show some skin?"
The remedy - be cool:
1. You're cool if you think you're cool, and/or your mom says you're cool
2. Sexy is hiding your skin and leaving it to the imagination, with maybe a flash of the shoulder or hips.
3. Sexy is being able to walk, talk and act normally using wit and charm to impress. It's not sexy to stumble around tipsy-like, clinging to your girlfriends and speaking gibberish with make up running down your face.
4. Cool and sexy is being able to dance to the music, and in order to do this you must at least be sober.
I'm talking crap, I'm highly delirious and I'm f*cking hungry. I hope this post made some sense.
I used to complain about how the club scene is an excuse for people to get trashed late at night, as a place for people to perve, hit on, pick up and get with randoms for the night or for a little while longer after that.
The horror story - stalking:
Nowadays I don't have as many problems with guys trying to grope me or stalk my friends and I wherever we go (in and out of the club) - my bestfriend once got followed home by a guy who saw her at the club. I'm talking about leaving the club at 4am, sitting and eating in McDonald's on George St for 2 hours, catching the train home then taking a cab. All the while he was following her and luckily she noticed halfway in the cab home. She told the cab driver to stop at the petrol station where the guy following her went up to her and told her he was in love with her and asked her to marry him. No he wasn't on drugs or anything, he was completely sober. And she had absolutely no conversation with him the entire night. Freak!
The defense - saying "no" (or more bluntly, "f*ck off"):
Then there's all the date rape drug incidents. Well I'm fine because I don't drink, except for water or Red Bull if I'm really f*cked. I know people used to think "loser" when I refused any alcohol especially if someone else was buying, "come on, it's free!" Yeah shut the f*ck up I'm not a tight arse who'll take anything because it's free, and I don't need to get trashed to have a good time.
But that's just me.
I guess complaining about the music is better than complaining about the sleazy guys, the trashy girls and dirty feeling after a night of clubbing. Some people still experience that, but avoiding it is a lot simpler than they think.
Then I get people who tell me I'm too preachy: "go join a convent or something and let me get smashed if I want to. By the way, you're so not cool and how are you supposed to get a guy if you don't show some skin?"
The remedy - be cool:
1. You're cool if you think you're cool, and/or your mom says you're cool
2. Sexy is hiding your skin and leaving it to the imagination, with maybe a flash of the shoulder or hips.
3. Sexy is being able to walk, talk and act normally using wit and charm to impress. It's not sexy to stumble around tipsy-like, clinging to your girlfriends and speaking gibberish with make up running down your face.
4. Cool and sexy is being able to dance to the music, and in order to do this you must at least be sober.
I'm talking crap, I'm highly delirious and I'm f*cking hungry. I hope this post made some sense.
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I love to dance (what person with filipino in their blood doesn't?) and listen to music. You'd think that going to clubs would be fun (and without having to drink). But I find the whole experience disgusting. The smell, the sights, the pressure on some people to do things they wouldn't normally do... yuck.
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Clubbing is fun when you're going with people with the same mentality as you and don't really drink, dance ALL night no matter what - you just vibe off each other and even if the music sucks and/or the crowd sucks, you still have a great time. I like these laws that ban smoking in clubs...
Comment by Anti-smoking
Unfortunately, Sydney has a lot to catch up on. The clubs here are not big on security. I have seen people light up in a non-smoking area in a club and bar. There just isn't enough assertive security personnel to stop these scum idiots. Coolabah, Hunter Street, Pumphouse are classic examples of clubs with the most indiscreet patrons who smoke in your face. One chick at Pumphouse ashed my hand with her cigarette with no apology. I got her back by sticking my gum into her hair.....evil, but I've still got a scar from the cigarette burn and that was almost a year ago.
My uncle died of throat cancer a few years ago because of cigarette smoking. I have been anti-smoking all my life. I love to dance and I love the club scene, but unfortunately, the law isn't effective enough for people like myself who want the freedom to go out, have fun and not have to put up with cigarettes.
Trina, I know where all the good dancers hang out, but unfortunately those clubs are where most people smoke. Personally, I think the hip hop culture encourages people to take up this dirty habit. You only have to watch those hip hop videos with Snoop Dogg to understand that fact. I know many people who follow hip hop, are great dancers, but they smoke like there's no tomorrow and have no regard whatsoever for those individuals who value their lungs. I have total respect for them as dancers but the fact that they smoke is enough to turn me off and not even want to get to know them as individuals. It's a catch 22.
Anyway, this is the primary reason why I've stopped clubbing. Second, my clubbing experience overseas has spoilt me big time. The quality of deejays here suck. I saw Clinton Sparks play at Gas nightclub this year, who by far is the best deejay I have ever encountered. Unfortunately, it was the worse crowd ever, which brings me to my third point. The Sydney club scene sucks because the crowd just don't know how to go off. Trina, personally, I am sick of watching too many guys battling and bboying. You go to places like the States and it's the only country where women go off and where women are the only gender to take ownership of a podium. I can't believe that the guys here fight for it like it belongs to them in the first place. Sorry dudes, but you don't exist without women. The podium is ours to take. Fourth point, nobody seems to know what grinding is all about in Sydney. Clubbing is about having fun not just dancing. Sure it's skanky, but shit, if they understand it as an art form in the African and Latin culture, why can't people just accept it here? We see it on hip hop videos all the time. Unfortunately, I have never seen anyone pull it off here. I guess the Sydney culture is just a lot more inhibited than most developed nations.
That's my 2 cents worth for today.
Comment by Trina
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I can't wait for the anti-smoking laws to take full effect, many a time I go home smelling like an ashtray, I get ashed too by careless bitches who wave their cigarettes around while they're dancing, sometimes people have thrown lit cigarettes out the window of a moving car which comes back inside and once I got burnt because of that. Dumb fucks.
I could write a whole rant against smoking... I know a girl who lost her mother to lung cancer, which she got just from being a passive smoker.
I've had guys in the club and elsewhere light up in front of me in hopes of impressing me and looking sexy. I mak a sour face, tell them how bad smoking is and walk away...
I agree about those laws in Cali, heard about them a while ago and was just amazed... now that I'm 21 I can head over there and check out the clubs and take classes in the Bay area.
Yeah I been to all those clubs you mentioned, and it's quite true. Space is also guilty of those charges. I can't believe you stuck gum in that girl's hair, I'm impressed lol.
I agree BIG TIME about the quality of DJs, and I didn't even have to leave this state to realise this - why don't they just get cd players and put on pre-made mixes? Most R&B club DJs give real Hiphop DJs a bad name.
You are on point about the crowd being an unmoved, unappreciative bunch. It's quite shameful and embarrassing to the int'l artists who are used to people going off, vibing off the energy from the audience, when they dont get so much love down here.
Battles are ok, but I think the problem here with the lack of female participants is that most who are game are just booty, or tryna do booty, and not actually battle. I myself love to battle, but I'm tired of bboys coming up and battling, knowing I can't match them cuz its a whole different style, so why the hell did they challenge me in the first place?
I'm rambling again.
You sound like you'd be a great clubbing buddy, although you mentioned how you never go these days. Well neither do I but I'll be at Hunter this Friday and next cuz my friends are finalist in the freestyle Roc Tha Beat comp. Should be a good place to jam.
Thanks for your 2 cents, I'm glad there are other like-minded individuals who take their time out to speak their thoughts.
Comment by Anti-smoking
Yeah Trina, well I can totally agree with you about the bboys. I've seen them try to battle chicks in a club and it's precisely the reason why chicks walk away. No wonder there's so many single guys and chicks in Sydney. The people here just don't know where to meet mid-way.
I don't go clubbing no more these days, but if my crew and I happen to be in the Hunter Street area, we'll definitely check out the dance finals next Friday. I'm so laid back these days. When I was living overseas, I clubbed every weekend - sometimes three times a week. Gosh I miss those days!
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What's your crew name?
Hmmm clubbing three times a week... only back when I was 18; now it's not worth it around here.
Comment by Anti-trust
I cracked up when you mentioned in your previous entry about why deejays just don't get cd players and put on pre-made mixes. My friends and I talk about it all the time and I so agree with you on this one. Clinton Sparks, who I've mentioned previously brought a laptop at Gas nightclub with his pre-made remixes which is like a common thing for deejays to use in London and the States right? The reason why I think Clinton is da bomb is 'cause da guy can MC and deejay at the same time. I'm not kidding about this, but when I hear quality hip hop played this way, it's like the most orgasmic thing. I paid $20 to see him play at Gas. It was definitely worthwhile and by far qualifies the best club investment I have ever made. He didn't play the same song twice. It was full-on - remix after remix after remix.
Generally, deejays here suck because they lack creativity and imagination. They play to the same tunes because they think everyone in the club are too drunk to notice or worse still, we're just a bunch of uneducated/uncultured indviduals. But, they're too stupid and too ignorant to acknowledge that they give real hip hop a bad name. Personally, I think there should be a deejay school set up to train these so called professional deejays. Quite frankly, most Sydney deejays stink.
Trina, you should create a topic in your forum on this one. I'm very interested to know what everyone else thinks.
Comment by Anonymous
some dj's just have no idea these days what tracks are for the dancers out there.. majority of them can't even dance themselves haha... they forget that the music/beats they play reflects what goes on .. on the dancefloor.. crunk and too much reggaeton is bs... but then again half the people on the dancefloor don't really notice much on the music coz they're too busy struggling to keep themselves up coz they'd drank too much.. but ooh yeah i feel you on the music bit.... dj's playing the same tracks over and over and over again... alot have lost their flavour and love for the talent, djing's about $$$$$$$, chicks, attention and status now days.. if you'd ask them to do a simple beat juggle/ chase or even as simple as a clean, smoothe, set... many would disappoint you without even trying!
and yeah who needs drugs/alcohol to have fun... it's more fun being straight and grooving your ass like it was your last chance.. the natural highs!
the stalker bit... HA HA HA.. the cons about rnb/hip hop clubs... *sigh*
keep groovin' & the music alive =D
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Jono - well said.